GTFS File

LIRR decided to publish the schedule that will be in effect 4 weeks? How nice, LIRR!

I found the following problem. With trip 1040,1041 and possibly more:

"1040",01:02:00,01:02:00,"Patchogue",19,"",1,0,,T "1040",11:12:00,11:12:00,"Flatbush Avenue",5,"",0,1,,J "1040",11:19:00,11:19:00,"Nostrand Avenue",6,"",0,1,,J "1040",11:24:00,11:24:00,"East New York",7,"",0,1,,J "1040",11:26:00,11:26:00,"Forest Hills",2,"",0,1,,J "1040",11:28:00,11:28:00,"Kew Gardens",3,"",0,1,,J "1040",11:32:00,11:32:00,"Penn Station",0,"",0,0,, "1040",11:44:00,11:44:00,"Woodside",1,"",0,0,, "1040",11:53:00,11:55:00,"Jamaica",8,"",0,0,, "1040",12:29:00,12:32:00,"Babylon",12,"",0,0,, "1040",12:38:00,12:38:00,"Bay Shore",14,"",0,0,,T "1040",12:43:00,12:43:00,"Islip",15,"",0,0,,T "1040",12:46:00,12:46:00,"Great River",16,"",0,0,,T "1040",12:50:00,12:50:00,"Oakdale",17,"",0,0,,T "1040",12:55:00,12:55:00,"Sayville",18,"",0,0,,T

It should be 13:02 not 01:02 for Patchogue.

In 1041 there are several stops that are off by 12 hours.

The latest VRE schedules effective January 5,2009.

FYI: There's a new PATCO schedule effective Dec 6,2008.

Bug. many trips around midnight/noon have times messed up. They start at 11 and end at 23 or 25 hours. Or they start at 11 and end at 0:

"183",11:53:00,11:53:00,"East New York",16,"",0,0,,J
"183",11:58:00,11:58:00,"Nostrand Avenue",17,"",0,0,,J
"183",12:03:00,12:03:00,"Flatbush Avenue",18,"",0,0,,J
"183",23:39:00,23:39:00,"Woodside",22,"",0,0,,
"183",23:49:00,23:49:00,"Penn Station",23,"",1,0,,
"183",23:54:00,23:54:00,"Kew Gardens",20,"",0,0,,J
"183",23:56:00,23:56:00,"Forest Hills",21,"",0,0,,J

"26",13:06:00,13:06:00,"Penn Station",0,"",0,0,,
"26",13:17:00,13:17:00,"Woodside",1,"",0,0,,
"26",24:54:00,24:54:00,"Forest Hills",2,"",0,0,,J
"26",24:56:00,24:56:00,"Kew Gardens",3,"",0,0,,J
"26",25:05:00,25:05:00,"Flatbush Avenue",5,"",0,0,,J
"26",25:12:00,25:12:00,"Nostrand Avenue",6,"",0,0,,J
"26",25:17:00,25:17:00,"East New York",7,"",0,0,,J
"26",25:26:00,25:28:00,"Jamaica",8,"",0,0,,
"26",25:42:00,25:42:00,"Lynbrook",10,"",0,0,,
"26",25:44:00,25:44:00,"Rockville Centre",11,"",0,0,,

"1811",01:01:00,01:01:00,"Penn Station",0,"",0,0,,J
"1811",01:13:00,01:13:00,"Woodside",1,"",0,0,,J
"1811",01:18:00,01:18:00,"Forest Hills",2,"",0,0,,J
"1811",01:20:00,01:20:00,"Kew Gardens",3,"",0,0,,J
"1811",12:41:00,12:41:00,"Flatbush Avenue",5,"",0,0,,J
"1811",12:47:00,12:47:00,"Nostrand Avenue",6,"",0,0,,J
"1811",12:52:00,12:52:00,"East New York",7,"",0,0,,J
"1811",13:24:00,13:29:00,"Jamaica",8,"",0,0,,
"1811",13:44:00,13:44:00,"Mineola",11,"",0,0,,
"1811",13:48:00,13:48:00,"East Williston",12,"",0,0,,
"1811",13:51:00,13:51:00,"Albertson",13,"",0,0,,
"1811",13:54:00,13:54:00,"Roslyn",14,"",0,0,,

"336",00:13:00,00:13:00,"Woodside",1,"",0,0,,J
"336",00:14:00,00:14:00,"Penn Station",0,"",0,0,,J
"336",00:15:00,00:15:00,"Flatbush Avenue",5,"",0,0,,
"336",00:18:00,00:18:00,"Forest Hills",2,"",0,0,,J
"336",00:20:00,00:20:00,"Kew Gardens",3,"",0,0,,J
"336",11:46:00,11:46:00,"Nostrand Avenue",6,"",0,0,,J
"336",11:51:00,11:51:00,"East New York",7,"",0,0,,J
"336",12:34:00,12:36:00,"Jamaica",8,"",0,0,,
"336",12:41:00,12:41:00,"Locust Manor",10,"",0,0,,
"336",12:43:00,12:43:00,"Laurelton",11,"",0,0,,
"336",12:46:00,12:46:00,"Rosedale",12,"",0,0,,
"336",12:51:00,12:51:00,"Valley Stream",14,"",0,0,,
"336",12:55:00,12:55:00,"Gibson",15,"",0,0,,
"336",12:58:00,12:58:00,"Hewlett",16,"",0,0,,
"336",13:00:00,13:00:00,"Woodmere",17,"",0,0,,
"336",13:03:00,13:03:00,"Cedarhurst",18,"",0,0,,
"336",13:05:00,13:05:00,"Lawrence",19,"",0,0,,
"336",13:08:00,13:08:00,"Inwood",20,"",0,0,,
"336",13:13:00,13:13:00,"Far Rockaway",21,"",1,0,,

I also see that actual train numbers are missing. The trip_id numbers are just generated numbers that don't match the actual train# (provided by LIRR). It would be useful to include them (for example, as block_id in trips.txt). Terminal zone train # are not availabel from LIRR, so it's ok to skip them.

Unofficial SEPTA with latest schedules effective Oct 26, 2008.

Could you also please the text formatting here? It looks line newlines are completely ignored and it makes it difficult to read. Y.

1. I believe I found an error in your data posted today:

"270",23:55:00,23:55:00,"Babylon",0,"",0,0,,
"270",24:00:00,24:00:00,"Lindenhurst",1,"",0,0,,
"270",24:03:00,24:03:00,"Copiague",2,"",0,0,,
"270",24:05:00,24:05:00,"Amityville",3,"",0,0,,
"270",24:09:00,24:09:00,"Massapequa Park",4,"",0,0,,
"270",24:11:00,24:11:00,"Massapequa",5,"",0,0,,
"270",24:14:00,24:14:00,"Seaford",6,"",0,0,,
"270",24:16:00,24:16:00,"Wantagh",7,"",0,0,,
"270",24:19:00,24:19:00,"Bellmore",8,"",0,0,,
"270",24:22:00,24:22:00,"Merrick",9,"",0,0,,
"270",24:25:00,24:25:00,"Freeport",10,"",0,0,,
"270",24:28:00,24:28:00,"Baldwin",11,"",0,0,,
"270",24:31:00,24:31:00,"Rockville Centre",12,"",0,0,,
"270",24:47:00,24:49:00,"Jamaica",14,"",0,0,,
"270",24:53:00,24:53:00,"Kew Gardens",20,"",0,0,,
"270",24:55:00,24:55:00,"Forest Hills",21,"",0,0,,
"270",24:59:00,24:59:00,"East New York",16,"",0,0,,J
"270",25:00:00,25:00:00,"Woodside",22,"",0,0,,
"270",25:04:00,25:04:00,"Nostrand Avenue",17,"",0,0,,J
"270",25:09:00,25:09:00,"Flatbush Avenue",18,"",0,0,,J
"270",25:12:00,25:12:00,"Penn Station",23,"",1,0,,

Stops are in correct order in terms of time, but stop_sequence is incorrect. Result: East New York is followed (eventually) by Forest Hills (which has earlier time stamp).

1. In some trips, babylon is listed twice in a row:

"1023",07:51:00,07:51:00,"Babylon",12,"",0,0,,
"1023",07:55:00,07:55:00,"Babylon",13,"",0,0,,T

I think it should be just one stop with 7:51 arrival and 7:55 departure. But it's a minor issue.

1. Long Island City is not present in stops.txt, and no schedule on it. LIRR lists it separately, it's not obvious (click on Long Island City on LIRR's site to see the schedule).

2. Stops without valid lat/longs should just skip this field rather than listing 0.000000 (which software believes is a valid coordinate).

Yuriy